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Talin 5/20/2018 6:59 PM

yes

It can be, Nathan. You should direct those thoughts to her, in some way.

when host enters the dw, I am usually standing in the barracks, within the bunker.

Yes.

simply us standing there, staring at each other, constitutes interaction

7:00 PM

although usually if he comes there, it is for a purpose and we shortly begin some activity or drill

"Directing" thoughts towards a tulpa is similar to - if you've ever simulated a possible conversation with another person in order to try and predict how it will go.

this ^

You "speak towards them" in that simulated conversation. The difference here is that you are speaking "towards" your tulpa and not making up their responses.

7:01 PM

Or shouldn't be, at least.

and initially host had to imagine, or sort of create my reactions, to get a feel for it, to get used to or acustomed to it

7:01 PM

however now I can automatically generate my own responses, provided I know enough about the subject and actually care enough to do so

SO IVE BEEN INTERACTING WITH---!? Drops coffee, walks out, screams and comes back I've been interacting with her this whole time?

yes

yup

7:02 PM

like we've all been saying, you needn't worry so much

what did you think you had to do?

it's really pretty hard to fuck up a tulpa if you truly care as much as you seem to

remember they understand intent above all

7:02 PM

they know you care

Hah.

7:03 PM

@Deleted User, as bduddy asked - what did you think that you had to do in order to interact with them?

I understand my host cares and loves me more than most other things, although he is a bit of a dunce sometimes, I love him for it anyway

Talking mostly

really any attention you give them counts

7:06 PM

just keeping them in mind counts

Talking is the only thing you need to do.

7:08 PM

Interaction is beneficial in general, however.

So me constantly thinking about her and daydreaming her and talking to her every five seconds, along with singing her some love songs, including her in my art(drawing her) and just imagining us together is enough?

...it is... quite honestly, more than enough.

I just realized how laborious that sounds

aye

Hah.

just a touch

Ah - incidentally, you don't need to make her into a romantic partner.

if things develop that way, fair, but not necessary

I wanted to clarify that as there was some implication of it.

Just a bit

well, that's understandable. Don't force the issue, and it should be fine

Is me telling her that I love her too much as well?

not at all

7:12 PM

love is almost integral in making a tulpa as far as i'm aware

Yes.

7:12 PM

It does not have to be romantic love.

7:12 PM

Skye and I "love" each other in a platonic way, more comparable to family or simply very good friends.

mhm. Same here.

I kinda want it to be romantic though I feel kinda bad saying that

I wouldn't recommend putting that pressure in before you even know what they are like.

Gotcha

Hah.

7:15 PM

After all, they may have a personality that you would prefer as a companionable friend.

7:15 PM

I will also point out that while there are benefits to a tulpa/host relationship... it lacks physical interaction.

7:16 PM

This is the case even when comparing it to friendship - there is no physical interaction.

7:16 PM

This difference cannot be understated.

unless you're in a wonderland setting and have arranged all the appropriate senses

Learning to impose could work as a substitute - but that is quite a bit more work, and... quite possibly not healthy if you are trying to use your tulpa as a substitute to direct physical interaction.

7:17 PM

In fact, I would go so far as to say that it is explicitly unhealthy.

7:17 PM

As mentioned before - please don't use your tulpa as a reason to cut off or otherwise cease interactions with others.

Nah

Okay. Excellent.

I don't care how long it takes

Stable mental health is more important than a tulpa.

7:19 PM

Excellent.

I may have moments of contradiction but rest assured I care for her more then anything I can really think of and--

7:20 PM

Hey are headaches and other head related pains normal?

Yes.

7:20 PM

For people making tulpas and people who aren't.

I've been feeling some massive spikes that I haven't felt in a while

Stress, sustained mental effort, heat, using a computer too long - all possible reasons.

7:21 PM

What I mean is... similar to head pressures, they aren't a reliable sign of anything.

they're not reliable, but they can be indicators that something is happening, and your brain is working in ways it's not used to.

They could mean that you are putting in mental effort that your brain isn't used to - or, it could mean you're getting sick. Or have been talking on here for too long (as quite a few people here likely experience, I would guess).

7:23 PM

It could mean something positive, or something unrelated.

7:24 PM

At the very least... I wouldn't say it's worth drawing a conclusion from in absence of something more definite - in which case, the more definite reason is worth it.

What can I draw conclusions from?

7:25 PM

How do I know when it's really her and not me

once she is vocal, you could simply ask her if you're unsure

Try to identify your normal thought patterns. What "sounds like" you, what kinds of emotions do you normally feel, what do intrusive or unexpected thoughts (if any) sounds like. Then just listen/feel for something different from that.

Typically, one can draw conclusions from responses with time as they become more solid and capable of providing sure responses - it does take time to accurately recognize it (just as it takes time for the tulpa to develop their own independence).

But here's the thing

7:29 PM

I know what my inner mind voice sounds like

7:29 PM

But my mind likes to make responses on it's own

7:30 PM

I'll ask her a question and in a feminine voice I'll get a response and I bang my head telling myself to shut it and let her speak

7:30 PM

And then I get this feeling in my chest, in my head and I don't know what it is

Have you tried asking for confirmation?

what would make you think it is her then?

Indeed.

I don't know That's what's killing me

Have you also tried simply saying "I'm not sure if this is you - if it is, could you please speak up a little more?" or some similar response?

At some point, you're going to get a response. It's not going to come accompanied by a choir of angels and a giant finger pointing to her, so you need to figure out how to accept whatever you do get.

If I ask then it does the same thing

7:33 PM

Just me imagining

What would make you think it's not you imagining then?

Letting voices roam, thoughts that I can't control come in and out, constant apologies and pleading

7:34 PM

Damn, give me a moment

You're always going to share a brain. Especially at first, she's not going to sound that different from your own thoughts.

Tch. Alright, one second. You said her name was... Natalie, yes?

Nathalie, yeah

Ah, Nathalie. I missed the h.

7:34 PM

Alright.